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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
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 Posted - 11/10/2007 : 19:40:19
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We are again looking to sponsor a race or races for 2008. We need your input and interests to help refine the race or series. Last year we tried the Sunday / double header weekend with mild success. We would like to know what each of you think would make a good event. Any interesting thoughts will be considered helpful. Over the last few years there has been interest in some type of heads up racing. Who's interested it that? Remember the fastest or quickest car usually doesn't win so don't let that influence you. In Las Vegas this year the #32 car put out the #1 car in first round. This is pretty typical in pro-street and sportsman racing.
Would you like to continue the same three events as in the last three years? We would like something different to help attract more racers and race fans to WIR. Let us know your interests. We are looking for suggestions.
Lastly we would like to thank everyone who had cars and engines built or repaired and purchased parts and fuel from us. We had a fun year, hope you did too. Thanks
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Joel
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2007 : 10:45:35
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| I would like to see some sort of heads up program at wir in 2008. this subject should be posted on the wsd site as it has been discused there several times. |
Tirys Race Engines
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Mr Obvious
Senior Member
USA
56 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 15:39:51
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| Heads up racing is for the guys who don't know how to bracket race!!! For those who are bracket racers, the program that we are using works just fine. |
Mr Obvious... DRAGSTERS RULE !!!!! |
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Captain Red Eye
Junior Member
USA
10 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 16:21:05
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| I thought they run heads up on Friday nights??? |
Gotta little Captain in ya? |
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 21:12:51
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Originally posted by Mr Obvious
Heads up racing is for the guys who don't know how to bracket race!!! For those who are bracket racers, the program that we are using works just fine.
A little closed minded dont you think. I agree that the bracket program works fine now. WIR has one of the best bracket programs around. This was not the most stellar year as far as car count goes, except for RSD and Specials that is. With fuel costs rising so will other things, except wages, and that may impact racing even further, similar to the late 70's. Special nights bring out the cars and the spectators. If there was something to suppliment the bracket races each week that would interest spectators also, it may help with track attendance.
I'm looking for all opinions and glad you spoke yours. Thanks, keep them coming. |
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 21:22:07
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Originally posted by Captain Red Eye
I thought they run heads up on Friday nights???
Hey Captain, they do race some heads up at RSD, but there is no actual program, rules, points or sponsored pay out other than betting. We are looking to help increase participation, racer and spectator. |
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tmodra
New Member
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 17:38:57
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| The 3 race Bracket Format is is still the most Even Playing Field for all Racers. Awarding Double Points on those Race Events would give Racers out of the top 4 or 5 (in the 3 race series)a chance to get back into contention to win. A few years ago, we had the 8 or 16 quickest cars running together, for a chance to win extra cash. I thought it brought extra excitment to eliminations. It would be great to bring that back, or run a separete Quick 8 or 16 |
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burmie1932
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 20:40:21
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I am prabably Not racing Top next year so this will not afect me. I am just wondering how you run a heads up show when very few cars are even close to each other? Also I am assuming there would be no way to make what ever no. of races this is, points races? My guess would be not everyone would want to race heads up. As far as car count goes, where do all those RSD guys go after Friday night? We sure do not see many of them on Sat. night, But those that do come out seem to do OK and have fun too. I know a lot of people did not run the Sunday shows because of other plans and also the very hot weather may have had a lot to do with cars both Sat. and Sun. Just My two cents
Mike don't get me wrong, we are glad to have you sponsor these and hope you will again. Thanks Burmie |
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:37:32
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These are all productive comments. I think the point is there needs to be something for everyone. Fast, slow, in between, street racers and also heads up racing. None of this means a replacement of bracket races just an addition to the bracket races. Something that will attract more spectators and participants. I see the attendance at the track dwindling slowly each of the last several years and greater variety may attract more spectators and additional racers. This could result in better payouts for all classes. I watched the pits the last two years and other than specials, you could pit car and trailer in a lot of open spaces. Wasn't so three and four years ago or so. Most of the season races were done by 9:00 to 9:30 and we didn't start early like in past years. I see and hear of alot of racers from central and northeastern Wisconsin that don't race at WIR and just go to Da Grove or Byron because there is no program here for them. A heads up class could easily be added to the Sat venue. NOT replace the brackets.
We see more and more racers purchase parts, fuel, tubing, engines and chassis from us each year instead of places like Summit and Jegs and we try to compete pricewise with them. We have tried to show our appreciation by sponsoring races and giving something back to the racers, but would like to include the heads up racers also.
Remember I am only looking to promote increased usage of the track. That will help secure a place to race as the economy continues to go south. A lot of you may even enjoy a heads up index or cap program and visa versa. Just some thoughts. |
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400SBC
New Member
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Posted - 11/14/2007 : 22:58:03
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Just a thought on a heads up class, we have at least 8 fast Doorslammers in Top, so why not hve a heads up Doorslammer class.
the fast door slamers that i can think of off hand are
Jim Greenheck
Pete Pawlak
Don Schultz
Brad Hardel
Lehman
WX84
I know there is mor out there |
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2007 : 23:09:11
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A great idea but the field would rarily change and would not attract spectators. I would like to attract more racers that currently do not race here now and that would also bring spectators and the followers of their favorite racers. It would also allow for racers (including import and slower cars) that currently do not fit in the bracket progran to do their heads up racing here also.
There is a lot of information and suggestions on the Wisconsin Street Dominators (www.wisconsinstreetdominators.com) website under the WIR heading. There is currently 7 pages of discussion and a lot of interest. |
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BoneDigger
Starting Member
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 Posted - 11/27/2007 : 20:00:59
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You know I have not been racing long at WIR, but I been at WIR for years. Over the last 15 or so years I have seen the same program year after year. I have also seen the amount of spectators decrease year after year. Maybe it is time for a change.
Unfortunately, I am not the one to input on what to change, but I support any idea that will bring the spectators back to WIR keeping the sport competitive for us.
I have watched the same people in the finals and it would be nice to see new names.
If you are a good driver you should be able to adapt if you can't adapt then you have been hiding behind your electronics to long.
Thanks,
Bone Digger
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fast fred
Junior Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2007 : 11:33:29
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| I read what bonedigger said and I am not sure what his point is,we had 12 different winners in top,15 in hot rod,11 in street,all of these guys are regular racers that show up week after week,year after year,supporting the track,without regular racers,there would be no racing at all,sure it would be nice to see some new faces,clearly with 15 different winners in hot rod,out of 17 races,no one appears to be dominating |
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fast fred
Junior Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2007 : 13:30:17
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| I have a few comments to make about heads up racing,if we we could find a way to add heads up racing to the sat. nite program and bring in spectators it would be good for everyone,one problem is guys with slower cars(10,11,12 sec.) will not show up to get beat on by faster cars(7,8,9 sec.)I read the stuff on street dominator website,guys complaining about no place to race heads up,but when given the chance at WIR they did not show up,did they not hear about it or is it they are all talk and dont really want to race? How about having 3 index classes based on safety gear,11.50 for guys with no roll bar,10.20 for guys with roll bar,and a quick 8 or 16 if you can get that many fast cars to show up, that can run 6.50 - 9.99,I know several people that would be willing to come and race with this format |
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YAV8
Average Member
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 17:06:53
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| I think you have a good idea with the three classes BUT there are a lot more people that would show up and race with a slower index. 13.50 and a 12.50 The name of the game is get the people in the gate and they will bring there friends to fill the stands. These classes are easer for some one to build and race. Everone need to start some place. I keep hearing about the slower car beating the faster car. IF the faster car has a problem or breaks you can beat a faster car. If you still think you can beat a faster car you are living in LA LA land or you have your head up your a-s or just stupid. Build it close to the index and run heads up. Run it on a Friday night with a T-N-T and gamblers race and there should be a good turn out. Something for everone. If it get to congested drop one of the events, untill then cater to everone. We all like to race with a chance to WIN. |
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stevesmail@charter.net
Starting Member
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 17:22:53
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| For those of us that pull far to race at WIR, the double header program is very desireable. I like to get more racing for each trip. |
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2008 Dragsters and Doorslammers Races
