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hotrodtodd93
Junior Member
USA
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 Posted - 01/29/2008 : 12:46:14
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According to rule #10 posted on the "Rules and Regulations" section for "Drag Racing" a Snell 90 helmet is still legal for this year. I would like clarification if this is 1000% true. I want to know if my snell 95 is still o.k. Everyone I talk to has a different opinion. Someone help!
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Randy S
Average Member
25 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2008 : 20:29:29
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| I think Snell 95 are out. Better have at least a Snell 2000. |
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psycho
Senior Member
Colombia
51 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2008 : 10:11:42
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Hey Randy?
Why would you go from snell 90 and jump up to snell 2000. Last year we were still able to use SN90's and like hotrod said the rules listed for this year in WIR's general rules are as stated, "Snell 90 and newer will be accepted". Listed in the new 2008 IHRA rule book is that "Snell 95 is accepted in all Sportsmen Catagories for vehicles running 0-9.99. This is also listed in the "General rules and Regulations.
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89firebird
Advanced Member
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2008 : 11:29:54
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I was told last year at the begining of the season that my snell 90 was no longer good. I plan on buying a new helmet here shortly if the car doesn't go. Can someone please officialy verify the rule so nobody wastes money please? Thank you!! |
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85 CAMARO
Average Member
USA
35 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2008 : 18:29:58
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We bought a new Simpson helmet last year for around $370 and change. 2005 so it's good for 10 years. Pretty cheap insurance. My beef is with the 2 year belt rule. Also Simpson offers a "safer racer program"
for the HANS device. 1/3 down, 1/3 in 60 days, and 1/3 in 90 days. Any comments on the Hans for drag racers?
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 21:18:28
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Originally posted by 85 CAMARO
We bought a new Simpson helmet last year for around $370 and change. 2005 so it's good for 10 years. Pretty cheap insurance. My beef is with the 2 year belt rule. Also Simpson offers a "safer racer program"
for the HANS device. 1/3 down, 1/3 in 60 days, and 1/3 in 90 days. Any comments on the Hans for drag racers?
Thank's
Paul
If you agree the helmet is Pretty cheep insurance, I assume you also value your neck and spine, so yes a Hans for drag racers is prudent. Same goes for belts; in a serious crash you need belts to limit movement, especially with the Hans. Belts have been shown to deteriorate from the everyday UV all around us and in a serious crash they will stretch until they tear. Under good conditions they may allow as much as a foot if shoulder and upper body movement. There is no way to determine how each racer has used or cared by just looking. Hence the two year rule. Doesn't seem too much of a price to pay for racing. Over the winter they can sent back for re-webbing for about 1/3 the price of new. |
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Randy S
Average Member
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 22:23:36
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| Boy....I don't know how a SN90 was allowed last year , especially in 9.99 and quicker. Last year I had my Snell 95 Simpson Bandit and was told it was still good for the 2007 year but would need to updated for the 2008 year. Snell ratings are usually good for 12 years....ie SN90 thru 2002, SN95 good thru 2007, SN2000 good thru 2012,SN2005 is good thru2017. These are the usual ratings for Sportsman class racing. Remember, these helmets are made of fiberglass and loss their energy absorbing properties over time, and faster than you think. I wouldn't trust a 17 or for that matter a 12 year old helmet. I guess what it comes down to is, if the worst happens, I don't want anyone getting hurt because of an out of date helmet. With the amount of money everyone has in their car and racing operation, $350 - $500 for a good helmet is a deal. |
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85 CAMARO
Average Member
USA
35 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2008 : 22:33:45
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| Thank's for the reply. We've already decided to use the HANS this year and we're only running mid-tens. You don't see many at the track and you would think some of the faster guys would have/use them. |
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psycho
Senior Member
Colombia
51 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2008 : 22:49:32
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Randy,
Is WIR going to follow IHRA and allow snell 95 or is WIR going to implament there own rule and raise it to snell 2000?
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Randy S
Average Member
25 Posts |
 Posted - 01/30/2008 : 23:21:14
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I don't have the 2008 IHRA rulebook, but in the 2007 Rulebook on pages 95 and 96, it says 0-9.99 and then the 10.00 thru 11.49 are to use Snell 95 or newer and then 11.50 and slower Snell 90. Then go to the General Regulatons on page 118 in the 2007 book and it says, "Drivers of Sportsman classes and ET cars-13.99(8.59 1/8mile)must use a helmet meeting Snell 95 or newer". Interesting.... |
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psycho
Senior Member
Colombia
51 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2008 : 10:50:15
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Randy,
If you go to the IHRA website and click on the competition tag it will ask you for a login and a password, you enter your membership number in both and you can view the new rule book on-line. IHRA is starting to send out the new rules on a computer disk to all members so no more paper books. Here is the link if anyone doesn't know...
www.ihra.com
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hotrodtodd93
Junior Member
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2008 : 11:40:34
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| Ok. What is the answer? Psycho what does it say for cars that are going slower than 13 seconds? I assume the faster you go the more stringent the rules. Which would mean my helmet should be good. I also assume WIR doesn't have track rules that are different than the ones in the IHRA rule book. Of course you know what assuming does. "randy" can you clear this up? |
Edited by - hotrodtodd93 on 01/31/2008 21:15:28 |
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psycho
Senior Member
Colombia
51 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2008 : 21:46:18
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According to the 2008 IHRA rule book it states the following:
0-9.99-SN95 OR NEWER
10.00-11.49-SN95 OR NEWER
11.50-13.49-SN90 OR NEWER
13.50 AND UP-SN95 OR NEWER
I don't know why they listed 11.50-13.49 with a SN90 when 13.50 and slower need a SN95.
That might be a mis-print in the book.
I would say according to the IHRA rule book that a SN95 is legal for all classes.
Wir can implement there own rules as every track has a right to, so until randy lets us know about what is exceptable we won't know. But like I said IHRA allows SN95 in all there classes for 2008.
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randy
Administrator
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Posted - 01/31/2008 : 21:51:52
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| OK Guys, Randy S you are correct.....2000 and newer are what you need for Top & Hot Rod. Street can use 95 and newer |
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1QUIK6
Junior Member
10 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2008 : 18:48:39
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OK, so I understand that I need a snell 2000 or newer. So I went to my dads motorcycle shop and picked out a new helmet. One thing I noticed was that all of the snell helmets no longer have the year marked on them. I know that all of these new helmets are 2000 or newer but how will the tech inspection know what year the helmet is?
My other question is what are the rules on open face helmets? I know that really fast cars require full face but where is the cutoff? Would I be able to wear an open face running mid elevens in hot rod?
Drag Racing is coming soon!!!!! |
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psycho
Senior Member
Colombia
51 Posts |
 Posted - 03/18/2008 : 21:18:37
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I thought I had the same problem but I called the shop where I bought my new helmet and they had me call snell. The labels are now underneath the inner linning. You should be able to unsnap it or it may just pull back but once you can see the inner shell the snell sticker is in there. Hope this helps-both drivers and tech guys.
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Helmet Rules
