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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
48 Posts |
 Posted - 02/07/2008 : 20:44:28
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I talked to Roger late last week. He said he was only going to try the Wisconsin's Fastest Street Car race again in August and see if any more cars show up. We talked and he agreed to allow us to run once to start with. It can be whenever we are ready to go. We would blend it in on Saturdays with the Brackets. We will have to run it ourselves. Payout would be a percentage of heads up gate intake and other sponsors if we can find some. If all were to go well and car count is overwhelming then he would consider other options to accommodate us, especially for 2009. We can do it one time, once a month or more often if it works. The next step is to organize it. More to come soon. We are looking back at some of the past ideas. It will not be 1/8th mile unless everyone wants it. When set to kill you'll break just as many parts in the 1/8th as in the 1/4. Just less area to clean up.
Based on all your comments lets restart this.
?? How many want 1/8 and how many for 1/4.??
How many classes?
What cutoffs or indexes?
How many of you are really going to support this?
Will you race the same day as the Brackets?
What payouts will you live with to start?
Lets here from you. Season's just 60 days away.
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YAV8
Average Member
46 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 07:31:07
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| I would like to see 1/8 mile to keep it tighter and yes less clean up and its something different. Make 4-5 classes starting with the slower cars 14 or 14.5 what ever the bracket you want and go down to 10. After that the car count would be quit low. I would love to race the heads up and the brackets if it ok with Roger and I think other racers would also. Its just another race like a gamblers and easy money. Make the pay out winner and runner up, based on the car count for the bracket. More cars more round more money. No Box Auto start and DOOR CAR or TRUCKS ONLY. |
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89firebird
Advanced Member
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 10:24:40
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I'd like to see 1/4 mile action. Drag racing 1/8 mile is for the Juniors and Southern tracks. Sorry Ralph--no offense to you, but I don't spend my $$$ to make a 6:30 pass. 1/8 mile is easier on parts and yes---less clean up, but you can't run a show based on worrying if your going to have that many messesto clean up. If we had a better, or should I say, shorter turn off, 1/8 mile would be a time saver if the heads up program was being run on a night during a bracket race, but the way things are set up, there really wouldn't be any time saved. |
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BonnevilleSpeedster
Junior Member
USA
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 15:43:21
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| We need an 8.50, 1/4mile, NO-box, class on a .400 PRO TREE. Preferable with ALL Doorslammers |
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85 CAMARO
Average Member
USA
35 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 22:12:34
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I'm with you Ralph. Isn't this suppost to offer something different to draw more people to the track? If the 1/8 mile doesen't work go to the 1/4. How about the I.M.S.M. format:
Street Division
Street Fighter: 12.000-19.999 bracket style
Street Intimidator: 12.50 cap
Street Heat: 11.60 cap
Pro Division
Pro Avenger: 10.50 cap
Pro Dominator: 9.50 cap
Pro Extreme: 8:60 cap
All pro tree, all doorslammers, all sportsmen ladder.(except Street Fighter). The series is in it's third year.
If you want to run faster(read 8.50), Chicago Wise Guys, Outlaw Super Stocks, N.M.C.A., or True Street, Modified Super Street, and Modified Super Stock at GLD.
If I'm not mistaken didn't I.H.R.A run 1/8 mile at W.I.R a few years back and last year at some of their events. Isn't there a 1/8 mile track in Iowa?
Just my .02.
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Bullseye
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2008 : 17:52:38
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| How would having a heads up program draw more spectators to the track? |
Edited by - Bullseye on 02/09/2008 21:22:04 |
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2008 : 21:33:55
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Originally posted by Bullseye
How would having a heads up program draw more specators to the track?
First of all, most heads up racers have a following of friends / fans that would like nothing more than to see their favorite racer put the opposition on the trailer. Heads up racing is interesting to watch and cheer on the favorite. Most of these are different and separate from the bracket fans. No different than on a Friday RSD night additional racer will bring in additional spectators. The hope is to create a following, no different that circle track or Nascar, that continues to grow over the years. These racers and following certainly will increase spectators and participation.
The bigger point here is that those wanting to race heads up, also have the opportunity to race heads up style. Just like bracket racers have a bracket program, the heads up racers have a heads up program.
It will take time to get it going but if its run along with the brackets, its a win win program.
There are pros and cons to 1/8 and 1/4 mile racing so time will tell. |
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Rhino1
Senior Member
94 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 07:36:10
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| If you want heads up racing why not just go on friday nites. I can see it now.....TONITE at WIR we have 3 cars in the 10.00 to 10.50 class and 2 cars in the 13.50 to 14.00 class .................... What does mr furglar think of this? Or that guy with all the knowledge????? Just my 2 cents.....You dont actually think you are gonna have like 20 or so cars in these classes do you??? |
NIGHT RACING ROCKS !!!!!! |
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BonnevilleSpeedster
Junior Member
USA
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 07:39:44
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| Two classes would work best, three at the most. But when we start looking at 4+ i think it would get waaay too thined out. |
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85 CAMARO
Average Member
USA
35 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 13:00:15
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Rhino 1,
Thank you for the kind words. I don't have all the knowledge but I've probably had a drivers license longer than you've been on this earth.
My racing days are over with but I like drag racing and would like to see tracks stay open so my son can continue to race. If your a weekly racer, then it's your responsibility along with the track owner to keep the crowds comming in the gate. I'm looking at the bigger picture and what has worked for N.M.C.A., ORSCA, ADRL, the Nitrous Brawls at GLD, IMSM, etc. We're fortunate to have three other tracks less than 3 hours away. |
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89firebird
Advanced Member
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 13:34:35
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| I guess figuring that there probably wouldn't be that many cars to start this out, it wouldn't really be a big time issue, so why not give it a shot on a Saturday night. Besides, it doesn't hurt to see some different things go on. Doing it on a Saturday night would probably bring more "REAL" competitive racers into trying it out maybe. More passes = more fun anyway!!! However, if your seriously hoping to draw more of a "fan" or "crowd" base--I have to bring up this point===look at how few spectators we get on regular Saturday nights now=== you want to throw in a heads up program, fine, but people aren't coming to watch cars go 120 to 170 mph in the 1/4 as it is, what really makes you think anyone wants to watch cars go 70 to 110 mph in the 1/8? |
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Rhino1
Senior Member
94 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 15:08:56
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| Man i get a kick out of all these people that chime in... but never show up! Just talk talk and more talk about racing but when fri or sat nite comes where are they?? Sure im up for new things and I want to see roger and Dan keep this track around...hell i've been coming here since the early 80's on and off...maybe you have had your license longer than me (Not by Much) but at least i have been here, Hell I remember when Rick usta race a suburban!! |
NIGHT RACING ROCKS !!!!!! |
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Ernie Furglar
Junior Member
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Posted - 02/10/2008 : 16:46:50
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| Well I hope they can get something going, but if it is run on a index I dont see a big difference from the bracket races. A heads up program would be nice,but I dont think there is enough people or cars to support a program like that, not to mention the problem of making and enforcing class rules. I do however like to watch some of those guys run that have more nitrous than brains, and if they want to wreck their cars for a couple hundred bucks, more power to em'. |
You make out like a burglar when you shop at Furglars! |
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sex n speed
New Member
Fiji
7 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 21:55:04
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I agree with Ernie and Rick. First, if your running on an index where is the difference between that and bracket racing? As for even bringing up the notion of running 1/8 mile, well, that just makes me SICK. We've almost all built our cars for 1/4 mile racing. "It's a speed thing you wouldn't understand." I love seeing the Chicago Wise Guys and all the rest put on a show. All of them run no matter whether it's blown, supercharged, or ton's and ton's of NOS. You need good reaction on a pro tree and the first car to the stripe wins. That's the exciting type of heads up racing that most people like. If your thinking of running on an index you might as well be bracket racing, MORE cars, MORE money, and AWESOME competition. |
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89firebird
Advanced Member
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2008 : 11:59:37
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| If something does become of this, I believe it would certainly have to go off of a Pro Tree. If you don't change it up from the bracket structure other than making it a index, these guys are right, it would just be basically another bracket race. Then you might as well just throw in a high stakes or limited entry gamblers race at the end of the evening. God knows there has been ample time as of late. |
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89firebird
Advanced Member
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2008 : 12:04:07
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| One question I wanted to ask regarding a earlier comment on it being restricted to no box vehicles----Does a delay box even serve a purpose off of a pro tree? As far as I knew, you really couldn't even use one for a pro tree. |
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