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Bjoosten927
Junior Member
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 Posted - 12/11/2008 : 18:42:58
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THIS IS A VERY BORING WEB SITE.somebody must have something to talk about.anybody building anew car for the 09 seeson.hope everbody has a nice chistmas and a happy new year see you all at the banquet
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85 CAMARO
Average Member
USA
35 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2008 : 21:02:53
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Boring??? Bring up the subject of "heads up" racing. LOL
Happy Holidays!!
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tonyr
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2008 : 21:04:14
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| Yes it sure has been quiet lately. I agree someone has to have something to talk about. Lets go. I need something to read. Happy holidays to all. Can't wait to see everyone at the banquet. Offseasons are too darn long. Or not long enough, depending on what your working on. |
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11sec.C3
Senior Member
61 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2008 : 13:22:08
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| So Bill when are you going to stage the car again? |
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1kwikpinto
Senior Member
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 12:58:48
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Maybe some people like BORING.. ( like driving a dragster ..) AND THE HEADS UP THING.
THERE IS ALREADY A FORUM FOR THAT. LAST POSTED IN MAY. |
Edited by - 1kwikpinto on 12/13/2008 13:07:53 |
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88Camaro
Average Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 15:34:00
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Originally posted by 11sec.C3
So Bill when are you going to stage the car again?
Al did you sell the vega yet? |
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burmie1932
Advanced Member
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 19:39:22
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| If you think your bored. I had minor surgery on my foot Friday. Can not do very much right now. Burmie |
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easyrider
New Member
USA
8 Posts |
 Posted - 12/14/2008 : 00:01:39
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Ok, lets ruffle some feathers...Why is it that the entry fee for every class at the dragstrip has gone up multiple times though out the years but the track still only takes one (1) dollar and puts it towards the points fund? Is it really going to break the track if maybe they would raise the points fund by taking maybe even as little as two (2) dollars or even three (3) dollars per entry and put it towards the points fund? Maybe if the points money was a little better then just maybe more people would come race our program at WIR. This is just one guys opinion. Wouldn't it be nice to actually race for a little more money in the points fund? Maybe 2 to 3 times as much? What do some of you think about this....Let's hear some replies.... |
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dragmaster
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 12/14/2008 : 12:41:15
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It's not that hard to understand, the costs to operate the track and the improvements each year eat up the little the entry fee has gone up. I'm surprised it's not more. You been to Rock Fall lately? I'll bet last year wasn't even profitable after the two floods, lightning strikes killing the timing equipment and well pump and now having to fix the bridge again. It would be easy to remedy though, just make it an 1/8 mile track, shut off the water and ask someone to bring stopwatches, megaphones, traction compound and some slightly used kitty litter. I imagine the track will still have to supply labor, rescue, prep/cleanup vehicles, insurance and racing is over by dark; lighting is expensive.
Actually, I think we have a good deal going. The food isn't that bad either. |
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easyrider
New Member
USA
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Posted - 12/14/2008 : 17:33:22
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Yes, I agree with the costs of the track and it's up keep. But an extra dollar out of an entry fee would double the prize fund, and wouldn't cut into the track "Budget" very much. I know this isn't very much but it's at least offering a little more and if that small amount adds or keeps 3-5 more cars in each class racing every week for the points, the difference in taking the little extra out for the points fund would be made up several times over with total entry fee and consessions sales because of the extra people.
I know you were talking about last year when we might of had to race 1/8 mile because of the circumstances but if ever WIR track went to 1/8 mile racing full time...It would be dead within 2 years. 1/8 mile racing is boring. I for one would take everything I own and the 25 years it took me to get to what I have and wouldn't hesitate and sell it all. I for one would be heart broken if I had to do that but there's not a chance I would run at a track that only ran 1/8 mile. I also know a lot of people at the track that feel the same way. I think Roger, Dan, and all of track personel have done a wounderful job with the track over the years and I for one appreciate everything they do. This was just and Idea that would cost very little and would bring in more racers, and that brings in more money...see the pattern. Also, have you seen the stands during a regular event, not to impressive. Why not get the spectators back in the stands by lowering the spectator cost. 20 spectators at $10 bucks a piece=$200, not to good. If maybe they offered $5.00 admission for all adults, $2.00 for 11-15 and 10 and under free. Then just a cheap $2.00 crossover admission. You can almost guarantee to have more then 10 times the amount of people in the stands. Put in a few more "Buck" nights, like they use to do, and if you remember those nights, the track would see thousands of people in the stands, drinking beer, eating, giving their kids money for candy, soda, ect. Concessions is were the track makes money, but you need spectators to get that done. So I think by lowering the admission at the gate you'd increase revenue 10 fold!!!!!!! I still like my Idea of the extra $1 or $2 towards the price fund to get the car count up every week. So I agree in some of what you replied but only a small portion. What does some of you other fellow racer think??? Chime in, nothing is going to be held against anybody for having an Idea....Ideas are what make us all Americans, free to have one!!!!!! Let's hear some Ideas of your own or if you agree with some of mine.
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burmie1932
Advanced Member
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2008 : 19:13:04
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| I agree it would be great to increase the points payout. I know that this last year not as many pit spots were rented. That money goes into the points payout I believe. Sure car count was down some weeks. Bottom line is we race because we love it. Yes we want to win. Yes we all would like to at least brake even or make a little at years end. As I see it winning the Championship in your class is more about prestige and maybe respect and less about the money. A few years back I know a racer that won the Top Elim. Championship.If I remember right He said he spent $6000 to $7000 during the season. I think his points check was under $800. He still thought it was worth it. To a point we are our own worse enemies. Every year we stick more in our cars to go faster. I like most know the return is not good in racing. Also like most I have been hooked for a long time. It would be nice if the top 10 in each class got a little more at years end. We have not points raced in Top Elim for the last 4yrs. because of my job. Maybe someday we can again. That's what happens when you have "Synthetic" racing oil in your veins. "Burmie" |
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wirtower
Administrator
88 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2008 : 22:29:11
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| If I remember correctly, everytime the entry fees were increased it was because drivers wanted higher weekly payouts. I don't remember a fee increase without a payout jump. If I am incorrect please let me know. |
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11sec.C3
Senior Member
61 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 06:07:52
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No. Looks like i will be running it next year. Had a couple offers like trade for a Harley but i passed.
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Originally posted by 88Camaro
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Originally posted by 11sec.C3
So Bill when are you going to stage the car again?
Al did you sell the vega yet?
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easyrider
New Member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 10:48:55
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RE:Wirtower
Yes, the payout did go up but it wasn't an equal raise. We did receive more payout but for what the entry fees were raised, we should of been paid more. The pecentage of increase in the entry fees didn't equal the percentage of payout. The increase in entry was higher. Plus it did nothing with the points payout.
We paid more entry money to race for a higher payout, for example we paid about 40% more for entries, but the payout only went up about 20%. So we were better off racing for less money with a smaller entry fee because we made more money. Not that it was a fortune but it was something and on average it was more.
Make sense?
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wirtower
Administrator
88 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 11:35:20
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| Easyrider, how much do you race at WIR, weekly, on occasion, or once in a blue moon? When you do race, did you pay for a pitstall rental? That money is also applied to the point fund, too bad everyone doesn't feel they need to pay that. Do you like the traction compound on the track? We sure have been using more of that, and the price keeps going up. Do you eat at the concession stand, or do you bring your own food, and then go over to the beer stand with the beer that you brought from home? All the costs keep going up, and I know they have been for the racers also, gas being a prime example. If Roger ran the dragstrip to make a huge profit, we wouldv'e been without a place to play a long time ago. Does that make sense?? |
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deramie15
Junior Member
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Posted - 12/15/2008 : 11:50:36
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| Well said WIRTOWER......without Roger and all the people who work there on race days, we'd all be sitting at home. So i think we should respect all of the decisions Roger has made and will make in the futre, becuase without him.....well, we don't have a place to do the things we love the most!!!! |
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